title: Forward, Darkspeed!
author: The Truth
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published: 2026-01-29T05:00:00+00:00
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The truth. Lost. The word was spoken to no one, but it reverberated off the hotboard of atlas youth's upcraft, like a confession. He had ignored the warnings of the Xeroine Synod and allowed the mandatious archcasters of the lithic tide to obscure his true course once again. This time, there would be no going home. Thank you. Wow, like a corpus in everybody. Like a on behalf of Harris Brothers' books, thank you for taking this time to read from the newest installment of the Dark Speed saga, Faster Dark Speed, folks. And if you're okay on time, we can open it up to some questions. Yes, of course. Anybody? Hands is fine. Yes, you. I like a huge Dark Speed fan since, like, forever. I'm sure a lot of us are. Yeah. I just think the world your mother created is so important. Each of her books is like, you know, it changed the course of my life. At last, Dark Speed is practically like my Bible. Within you, Dark Speed, I actually proposed to my fiance using atlas's speech to read Yelika at the Citadel. Oh, that is amazing. Mom would have loved that. She was one of a kind. When I heard you were going to pick up where she left off, I thought that felt so right. And I read your book over this past weekend, and I'm a little confused. Can you explain the choice to focus on this new rocket fuel shortage thing out of nowhere? And this weird minerals, our guy? Well, you know, I mean, mom didn't really leave a road map for where she saw Dark Speed going. But I think that she trusted me to be faithful to the spirit of it while still finding some ways to make it my own. All right. But why didn't you use all of the great stuff that your mom set up, like the duorads or that Killwim Heresy? Over the vision of Bloodpoint Valley. Yeah. Yeah, well, I really think that when you read the next one and you see the big picture, it'll all make sense. Thank you. Yes, you. Hi. Yeah. Is there a reason why in your book the characters don't say the stuff they would really say or do the things they would really do? Oh, a reason? Sorry. Are you asking, look, mom and I are different writers. There's no way around it. But I love Dark Speed just as much as you all do. And I want to see mom's story finished properly with heart and a sense of adventure. And that involves making choices and taking some big swings and actually writing. And honestly, sometimes I feel like you people will just not give me the benefit of the doubt. So I'm sorry. Yes, you. I forgive them like they can't imagine how hard it's been for you to be thrown into all this. Thank you. That's very nice to hear. Is there a question? It's going to be all right. The best Dark Speed stories are still to come and they'll be written by you. Thank you. Okay. Let's call it there then. Michael will be signing autographs in the new fiction section in 10 minutes. So I hope that you'll join us there. Let's hear it one more time. These people hate me. They don't want my autograph. Of course they want your autograph. You're a little well at Torvison's daughter. A craft's away. Susan. There you go. Thank you, Susan. Hi. Who should I make this out to? I hope that wasn't too much in there. I just. I felt that shit. It's you. Thank you. No. That was very sweet of you to stick up for me. I knew your mother. We worked together. I'm George. George Flakos. I used to call your house when you were very little. Mom's George. Yes. You were her. I think she usually described me as a research assistant. Oh my God. What are you doing in Sacramento? Oh, I love here. This is where Louwella would come to see me. Oh. I haven't been well, like a... Otherwise, I would have contacted you sooner. Ideally, we would have met before she passed. Right. Are you here with someone? Listen. Your mother didn't invent the dark speed stories. She received them with my help. But it's all truth. Zara wins the lithic tide. We can continue her work. Your book is false, but it's not your fault. Yeah, please look at it. Back away from her, Mary. All right, I'll go. Meet Nith, Magnolia, and town tomorrow at noon. Please. Wow, what a creep. Yeah. Thanks. Make this out to Steve, please. Oh, actually, can you write thanks for saving me from that creep? Taking the reins on a story, everyone already loves, has to be a little scary. Can you keep the magic that drew people to it in the first place when you know there are people out there who believe getting it right is a moral obligation? This is the truth I'm Jonathan Mitchell, and this story is about legacy, expectations, and what happens when a story starts making demands of its own. And before we continue, the truth is an independent show. And right now, listener support is really what's keeping it going. The ad free feed directly pays the writers and actors who make these stories possible. 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So we just had our big, weekly development meeting here, Primoreal, and we're setting up to pretty big news, right, then? Are you ready for this one, Leica? Because Lincoln's server, best supporting actor Oscar, in tow, is returning to the franchise as atlet's youth. Oh, that's great. So there's gonna be another movie? Oh, we're all system to go. And Lincoln wants you to know it was just business. He loves the character, he loves your mom, the whole dark speed world. And he's signing on for six more movies. Six, I didn't even realize that. I kind of make you want to have a little martini. So yeah, let's go on out to the trades next week, along with the official announcement of the next dark speed movie, which will be... Oh gosh. At last, dark speed. How about that? We're going back to the beginning. How did we get here? You mean you're adapting the first book? Again, mom's book? Yeah. Didn't you just make that movie? Yeah, like eight years ago. I felt like why not going to this next phase with the most iconic dark speed story, you know? With that confidence and clarity that comes from having already told it. With some changes, of course. Settle changes in emphasis. But what about my book? Faster dark speed is what happens next, right? Officially. And we're just not adapting it. Oh, we're not adapting it. We're just not adapting it now. Yeah, but hey, Dan, can I talk to Dan? Yeah, you got me like. Don't do this to me, Dan. This gives everybody an excuse to ignore my book. If the movie's just skip it, it's like it's not real. Yeah. Yeah, listen, like the reaction to... Yeah, it's selling. It's selling, but it's also good looking like it's the fans, okay? They say they don't feel like it's real dark speed. And a movie has thousands of people and millions of thrillers. Yeah, okay, well just let me show you what I have planned. I'll send you a treatment. The whole plot for the next book, it's going to put everything into context. You will see. I'm working on something really special. Does anyone on your site, it's us, right? Okay, I will always hear you out. You hear our line to that whole magical torbouson thing. But the people want real dark speed and Lincoln server. And that was youth, and it last dark speed all along. It doesn't get anywhere with dark speed, even that, huh? I got over here. This is great. Oh, thank you for coming. Have you eaten here, the Magnolia? I haven't, it's lovely. It's an old fashioned cafeteria, but with a modern global twist, food from everywhere. I started coming every Sunday once I qualified for the discount. My daughter drops me off with the newspaper that I'm in heaven. Oh, you want to go through? Oh, I think I'll just get a coffee. Oh, my gosh. Your hair up like that, you look just like your mom. Listen, George, I still don't feel great about our interaction at the reading. So this is not meant to encourage that kind of behavior. I know, and I'm sorry. We've just lost so much time. I felt I had to reach out and grab you. Let's go. The fact is, I don't meet many people who really knew my mom, and even worked with her. And I realize that maybe you'd have something that you kept from those days, like notes that she kept. Oh, Lohela never kept notes, no need. Okay, but maybe letters or anything that could help me convince people that I'm not that I am doing what she wanted. It'd be different if she hadn't gone so fast after the stroke. We could have written one together. It's just that it's been too easy for people to make up their minds that everything she did was genius and everything that I do is wrong. And if they really loved mom and all the decisions she made, then well, I'm one of those decisions. She picked me. Whatever, I'm sorry. The frustration you're feeling is completely understandable. Yeah. I think you may be under psychic attack from a lithic tide. Okay, see, this is, I really can't help you, but you've got to listen. For 78 years, I lived here as George Flacas, but before that, I was someone else. As Xero and soldier from the other side of the universe. Jesus, maybe I should go. Why? Because you think I'm a hopped up or a dementia? All right, do you remember out placing from the books Xero and technique from making someone suddenly feel that they're somewhere else entirely? Yeah, of course. Okay, give me your hand. I really shouldn't be doing that. Older sis, that's who is. Yeah, drink your coffee, you're my brother. Like a, where I'm from, the war your mother wrote about is really happening. My people have fought the lithic tide fearlessly for centuries, but her enemies learned of a key weakness that we Xero and draw our power, our will to fight from our connection to our own history. So they began to erase that history, warping it, stamping it out. And meanwhile, killing us in droves. We realized it was only a matter of time before they wiped us out completely. So we decided to send our history somewhere else to create a backup. Something our descendants could find later. Earth. Well, Earth was really the only choice. If we send our message anywhere else, it would be seen as a threat. An upstart religion, a subversive propaganda, but on Earth, under the right circumstances a story will be spread even if nobody believes it. It just has to amuse them. So with what little strength they had left, our priests began the transmissions. They also sent me the consciousness of a Xeroine soldier to look for someone on Earth who could make her a truth, resonate, a storyteller, Luella. She was hardworking, so talented, and it just so happened she was looking for a spark. And now thanks to her, well, look around, 400 million books sold in over 60 languages, movies, video games, even a theme park, all dedicated to my people, my faith. By the time my descendants arrive, this whole planet will be their church as long as a story gets told in full, like a, where you help me complete the dark speed histories. When can we start? Yeah, but this house, as soon as I could afford it, it never lived more than a few miles away, it didn't gust it up much. I hope you don't find it depressing, but longitude and latitude, this is where the transmissions are clearest here. So all those trips out of nowhere and she was just coming here? Do you know how crazy that drove my dad? She never told us anything. I call when I determined that broadcast was coming, they're time with the movement of the planets. She left that stuff to me and that's a George stuff, she'd say. We'll go ahead, sit in that chair. And then I'll just, I'll hear it. Oh, you'll know what's happening. I think there was some bottle water around here. It always did just seem a little too good to be true. How did a lady from Minnesota think of all that? I mean, you know, she was smart, but like, how'd she get it so right? Here. This is warm and very old, but you should stay hydrated. Okay. Jesus. You look just like you're sitting there. I'm sorry, I'm getting nostalgic, Dad. I'll wait in here so I don't distract you. I have butterflies, but we're back in business. Anything you need, you just say something. Okay. Thank you, George. Oh, my God, it's good, it's really good. With a clarity of purpose that seemed to ward off even the dust and darkness, Atlas youth descended the stone steps of Killwim Catechome. The durods had revealed all. He was the true prophet of Lung. The priest at the bottom of these stairs was an imposter, a lithic suturge, and the hunt for kermis fuel, the struggle with hack the minerals are. These had been illusions, psychic predations of the lithic tide. He felt his every muscle animated by holy certainty. No one could stop him now. Wow, like, seriously, all I can say right now is, wow, this stuff sings. Yeah. I mean, it's really just a treatment with a few fleshed out scenes, but it's, yeah, I can't stop. And so the whole last book was a dream? Yeah, it was, it was, well, it was sort of like a weaponized hallucination, but. That's genius. It just goes like, we're all, we're back in there, like it's right. I mean, your editor's just like over the moon right now. Millie's pretty excited, yeah. I'll tell you, he was also very excited as Lincoln, I sent it to him, I couldn't help him. And I think, I mean, I think this is the next movie. I think we open with that catacombs chase. And then the catacombs is a spaceship. Oh, there's a couple of them coming out of the, don't people are going to be shouting at the set? Like, dark speeds back. Yeah, dark speeds back. They're going to be chanting dark speeds back. Well, like dark speeds back. Dark speeds back. Dark speeds back. Really, they're like, I think you can do a meeting here at Primordial, a chance for you to tell us, Micah. Hey, I'm Lincoln. Your vision in the rest of the story, a Friday. Friday. Yeah, I love that. Tell everybody I cannot wait to show them what really happens next. Great. And in the meantime, hey, just keep it coming. Good morning, George. I brought donuts. Oh. And I got stuff for sandwiches too. Let's get to work. Oh. So thoughtful. My daughter read me your treatment, by the way. You're splendid. Oh. No, I cry. George, you have the same feel for the little moments, the emotional detail. The exchange you wrote after Atrice Rescue's pride, Muriel, they will see you at my side and know they've lost. That's it. That's my people summed up, right there, whether it was ever really said. That was a little while or two. She knew when to add a little flourish. Yeah. Well, I'm just so glad that we're doing this right. And I want to make up for lost time. I am ready to go nine, ten hours straight in that chair. Yeah. Well, we can't control how fast the transmissions come. They can't even know for sure that anyone's tuning in. It's all one big, in a galactic act of faith. I just want to help your people, however I can, George. I owe you everything. Well, okay, better set. It's time. Oh. All right. Zoroin's got for us today. He dies. He dies. George. George. George. Oh. What is he doing? I toast. Atlas Youth. He dies at the cataclybaration? Oh, we're already there. How is that possible? George, how is the hero of the story dead? Well, of course he dies. It's the central event of my faith. Atlas Youth, sacrifice, a cataclybar. It's what happens afterward, like a- like a- Lincoln server just signed a six-picture deal, George. Well, what difference does that make? What difference? He's Atlas Youth. And I have a meeting Friday where Wamp's was telling him what he's doing in those six movies. You want me to tell him that he's in two pieces at the bottom of a moon like? His love survives. George, this is the one thing that cannot happen in Dark Speed. And it is what happens? It's suicidal for the franchise. I'm going to be sidelined, retconned. I'm going to be self-publishing out of my garage. Just, they're going to call it fanfic. Like, okay. What would Mom do? What would Mom do when something in your history wouldn't resonate with our people? Well, I left that up to her if she was the writer after all, huh? Well, I always just seem to get it right. Why does Adam set you? Like, huh? And we'll continue in just a moment to hear all of our stories ad-free. Go to the truthpodcast.supportingcast.fm. Now back to Forward Dark Speed. Like, and right here, you're still in Sacramento. Why the hell are you still in Sacramento? Yeah. I'm just, well, I'm finding it easy to work out here. It's quiet. The ideas are just flying. God, I wish I knew what that felt like. You better keep them flying right into my inbox. Actually, there is something I wanted to run by you. Okay. So, last night, I woke up in the middle of the night, and I had something in my head, sort of what if, what if, it's time to adjust how the character of Atlas Youth operates in the Dark Speed saga. Uh-huh. Because whereas now he's like right in there, so present, what does it look like hypothetically if he's... I like it. We got a little surprise for you here. Somebody special stop by the shop. Like a Lincoln server here. Oh, oh, oh, my God. Whoa, hello, Lincoln. I am such a fan. We met, actually, at the... Go with In premier. Yeah, I remember. Hey, listen, I'm on my way out, but I wanted to let you know how excited I am. I'm about the new stuff. I am so, so glad that you like it. Yeah, and not to butt in, but it sounds like we are in sync with Atlas. I see I'm taking it even more active role in the next few chapters. Right, right more active than... I mean, you're the hero league. Sure. Yeah, no, but in a lot of ways, he's been mostly reacting. You know, I want to see what happens when he hits that driver's seat for real. Mm-hmm. I'm thinking the next three movie posters are just Atlas alone. You can only tell him apart by the battle damage to my uniform. Oh, my God. Like? That's exactly what I was thinking. That's great. Okay. Well, all right. Well, that's a little story, though. It's that easy to know that. Also, what about an eye patch? Oh, yeah. Yes, that's great. Oh, look, they just put out the short ribs. You really should try some all the time. Okay. Here's an idea. What about the afterlife? What if Atlas fights a parallel battle in the afterlife? So he's dead, but Lincoln still gets to do actually... There are still real Zarywood after life per se. There's a state of psychological pain, right? Oh, the league. Yes. Shit. That's right. I forgot. That's been established. Oh, what about dream sequences? We Zarywood's a very into dreams. Eh, I don't know. Or Atlas could come back as a memory, a memory that gives people advice. I've seen shows that do that. Could we just skip Atlas getting killed somehow? Well, skip it. I mean, if we're careful about it and we keep everything else sane, then I mean, think of it as like a flourish. You should leave out the sacrifice at Kalazakh is more than a flourish. That's a distortion. That's exactly what the lithic tide was. Okay, okay. It's just a... I'm sorry. We're brainstorming. The Zarywood's power, all of this, relies on our story being told as it happened. Please don't forget that. Now I get that this part of the story disappoints you, but it's just like we're just getting to the good part that Brad Muriel, Atlas's protege, inspired by his sacrifice, found a new religion. She takes on the lithic and chris of leagues. She becomes a derotic beacon, a messiah. But Brad Muriel is played by Lucille Jimenez, the Olympic gymnast. She's not an actor. We can't build an entire franchise around her. Oh, so then stop worrying about actors. Just write the books. Yeah, but they aren't just books anymore. They're IP, they're brand strategies. If I get this wrong, then the execs are going to squeeze me out. And then when your descendants get here, their history is going to be an edgeless market research and nothing. That's not going to happen. You're a gifted writer like a, and there's power in the truth. It's like your mother used to say, we know better than everybody else, George, because we know the real story. But it was easy for her. She started out as nobody with nothing. And I am underneath all of this. And I'm dealing with investors and business managers and millions of fans who are always comparing me to her. I'll probably just be fighting my whole life just to hang on to this, and none of it's going to really be mine. I'm tired like a, I better call the call to pick me up. Can you come to the transmission house tomorrow? Another transmission already. Yeah, this one will be different. I promise. Everything's all set for that meeting tomorrow. Like Lincoln cannot wait. Better stay room for that celebratory in Martini, because in my opinion, we can't lose. Gosh, I feel like I just can't catch my breath this week. Do you mind if I sit? No. To the time in class, important today. Ah, here. Take these. What are these? Pebbles. Oh, keep them apart. They're from the park, but they could have come from anywhere. It's another technique and never made it into the books. It's a form of out placing, centered on an object. That's something I should be trying, 78, but I've needed something into these, a memory, a moment I remember with Luela that stuck with me. I'm sure it's been changed by time, but whatever you want, you just tap them together twice. Tap them together twice? That's just a trigger, silly, I know. That's very sci-fi. Well, I am what some of that stuff is based on, you know. I think I finally heard you yesterday. Oh, I can really help you. And well, whatever you're ready. I'll give you the rule. Here it comes. It would not hurt. Wind or unit? Well, in the summer I'm coming out of these transmissions just drenched. I was having so much trouble with this last one, George. I kept asking myself, why would Atlas Youth accompany Red Yelika to the trials at Starlett Citadel? Atlas is holding off an army on the other side of the galaxy. Red just stole his girlfriend. It doesn't make any sense. I would anyone write it like that. I knew that's what you would say, George. I brought it up to Ryan and like it dinner. Don't worry. I didn't tell him about this place, but I told him the plot required something that nonetheless just didn't feel right. And I described it to the best I could. And like it had the answer. She told me, at least you should say to red, I didn't want you to be alone. Can you believe that? Just I didn't want you to be alone. You have to make a story useful to people, George, more than just a list of names and events. It has to be something they can identify themselves in, consider their own lives through. And like I said, at five years old, she's just got that instinct. I didn't want you to be alone. Oh, all right. I'm ready. Let's see what these are, Owens, have for us today. My God, thank you, George. That's the answer. I figured whenever you want, you could use those pebbles to remind yourself that you and your mother have always been writing this story together. Doc's speed is yours, too. But those motorcycle stunt guys have the most insane stories. What are their originals? Yeah, right. Admittedly not the coolest about women, but man. That's awesome, Lincoln. And Mike, if you're ready, I think we get to it. The reason we're all here. Like a tortoise, and this dark speed herself. Hey, hey, everybody. OK, this, I've been looking forward to all week. No joke. Like is going to walk us through what she's been calling the future of dark speed. Like whenever you're ready. Yeah, sure. Thanks, Dan and Jack. Mike, Lincoln, everybody. Dark speed is moving into a new phase. We're reaching the crux, really the point of the story that my mom was trying to tell. It's going to feel different. And that's good. The next novel, Forward Dark Speed, here's the cover. We'll kick off a whole new trilogy. New adventures centered on the classic dark speed themes of trust, prophecy, and family. Something will be gained, and something will be lost. After the discovery at the Killwin Catacombs, the journey to lithic one and the distress signal from Catazac, all in the treatment that you read, will move to an altogether different setting. A funeral for the Zaroans will suffer a loss at Catazac, a loss that would seem to doom their movement. Or is it this sacrifice that allows the Zaroans to move on, to change, to become something new, something they were always meant to be? We see heads bent in prayer. We see flowers on a silver coffin. And in that coffin? Bride marial. Bride marial is dead. And then we see Adless at the day. It's just completely drained of tears. And he looks out at the crowd. And he says, they think they killed our friend. But they only brought her closer to us. We carry her with us now. Inside of us, she will accompany us through strife, sorrow, imprisonment, and torture. The Zaroan need never to spare, because a Zaroan is never alone. Suddenly, two mourners draw off their cloaks, cable guns. It's a lithic attack. Yes. Oh, oh. Holy shit. I'm going to make a million of these. Hello? Hi. Sorry, is George there? Is this like a? Yes? Hi, like a, yes. I'm Nicole. I'm George Star. Oh. Hi. Is George OK? Well, dad fell this weekend. All right, my. I think it set him back a little, all those clarity issues from before we change the meds. Did he tell you about all that? Just a little bit. But is there anything I can do to help? I'm back in LA now, but I'm sure he'd appreciate you coming by. Sure. Your family means a lot to him. We're at Mercy General, so you know, if you have some time. He's still pretty much just sleeping a lot of the day, though. So I don't expect much. Thank you. Can I just have a moment with him? Sure. No problem. Hey, George. It's like a. God, how did this happen? I feel like we were just talking. Can you hear me at all? I brought you some food from Magnolia. You know how hard it is to sneak food out of there. I'll just leave it with a nurse. I just wanted to tell you that the meeting went great. And I should have called you right after, but I figured it out. How to keep Catazac in the story with just a couple changes to make the big movie guys happy. Kinds of changes that mom would have made, I think. And they loved it. We are full steam ahead. Yeah, sometimes when you're writing the answer just comes to you, like something that solves all your problems at once. And well, so I switched Atlas out for bride. Because the sacrifice itself is what's important, I think. And loyalty and family and all the themes are they're there. It works perfectly. And we're never going to have to change another thing. Gosh, I hope you can hear me. I was hoping that you could, I can't get the pebbles to work. George, I tried this morning, but it was such an amazing gift. But when I tapped them down, nothing happens. And I got worried that it meant that I changed the story too much, that I distorted things. Did I? I hope that you would tell me that it was OK, because you left it up to me. George, you told me that you said that it was up to me. Oh, God. Am I? Am I why you feel? And what about the transmissions? I can't receive them without you. How is my supposed to know that it would happen just like that? You know the kind of pressure that I'm under. And I could feel it all slipping away from me. Maybe they got to me. The lithic tide. Is this them? Maybe they confused me somehow. We can keep fighting. There's still time to change things. I can fix it. I'll take it back. And then you'll get better. Because there's power in the story as it happens. Look at everything it's done so far. I can get it back. I had it once, and I can get it back. Real dark speed. I promise. I promise. I promise. I promise. I promise. I promise. I promise. I promise. I promise. Wherever. To hear more original stories like this, go to thetruthpodcast.com. You can also follow us on Instagram, Strans, and Blue Sky. Our handle is the Truth Fiction. Forward Dark Speed was written by Hunter Nelson and directed and sound designed by me Jonathan Mitchell. It was performed by Liz Lyme Cooler as Lyca, Michael Cullen as George. 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